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NOTES FROM CONFERENCE CALL WITH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU: Warns of Iran’s “nightmare scenario”

In Uncategorized on January 12, 2009 at 6:26 pm

Netanyahu meeting with an Israeli civilian victim of a Hamas rocket attack in Ashkelon

Netanyahu meeting with an Israeli civilian victim of a Hamas rocket attack in Ashkelon

** Monday, I had the honor of being in Sderot and Ashkelon with some of our Joshua Fund team and a film crew. We were doing relief work and meeting with some of our key allies. Will write about it and post photos Tuesday, Lord willing. But thanks so much to all of you who have been praying faithfully for our safety while we’ve been in Israel. We serve a prayer-hearing and a prayer-answering God. There were two missile attacks on Sderot while we were there, and at least 19 attacks throughout southern Israel today. By God’s grace we were safe, but we certainly experienced emotionally — if only for a few minutes — what hundreds of thousands of Israelis face hour by hour, day after day as rockets keep falling with seemingly no end in sight and you never know where they are going to land and if you are going to be injured or killed. We had the privilege of visiting Barzilai Medical Center in Ashkelon where they have treated more than 430 Israelis wounded by Hamas missiles. We visited with victims of war and terror. We met with hospital officials to get briefed on the latest developments. I was also interviewed by news correspondent with Israel’s Channel One. Again, more details on Tuesday. In the meantime, please continue to pray for the Lord to protect innocent civilians on both sides of the border. Pray that Hamas’s terror network would be destroyed. And please pray that Gaza would be liberated of this Hamas evil ASAP. **

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(Jerusalem, Israel) — Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a 25 minute conference call today with conservative bloggers in which I had the opportunity to participate, made it clear that he sees Israel’s current war against Hamas in Gaza as a “just war,” as a proxy war with Radical Muslim leaders in Iran, and very possibly as a prelude to a future war to stop Radicals in Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, an event he described as a “nightmare scenario.”

Israel is pursuing a “just war,” Netanyahu said early in the discussion. He noted that “Hamas is pursuing an illegitimate goal to accomplish the annihilation of the Jewish State” and is using “illegitimate means,” including the “firing rockets on innocent civilians.”

“This is a classic case of justice pitted against injustice” and “against the forces of darkness,” said the Likud leader who when the war began suspended his party’s campaign for the February 10th elections. “Everyone has to choose which side of the battle he is on?”

Is this really an isolated local skirmish, asked one blogger, or is there a larger story at work here?

“Our fight with Hamas,” he replied, is with terrorists who have “backers in Iran” and have shown the “willingness to use any methods including firing rockets on innocent civilians….Israel is now the front line in the battle between militant Islam and the rest of the world – witness what has happened [in terms of terrorist attacks in recent years] in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Mumbai, New York, Washington….and there are enormous global consequences. Does Iran have a victory in one of its two forward outposts [the other being Hezbollah]?”

“Israel cannot tolerate an Iranian forward position [in Gaza],” he continued, saying that Israel’s long-term goal needs to be blocking Iran from becoming the dominant regional power. He also noted that Israel’s “immediate goal should be…removing the threat by stopping the firing and preventing the resupply of rockets and other weaponry by Hamas.”

The call was organized by One Jerusalem, an organization founded in the fall of 2000 by former Israeli deputy prime minister Natan Sharansky. One Jerusalem’s executive director, Allen Roth, moderated the discussion.

I had emailed in a question asking what can Jews, evangelical Christians and others can do to help Israel in the current conflict. Undoubtedly other bloggers emailed in similar questions. This was the second question posed to the former Prime Minister by Allen Roth.

“The most important thing [friends of Israel can do] is to tell the truth,” Netanyahu said. “There is a campaign of lies against us,” including that Israel started this conflict [they didn’t], that Israel is targeting innocent Palestinian civilians [they aren’t], that Israel isn’t allowing humanitarian aid to enter Gaza to care for innocents who are suffering [they are]. “Get the facts straight….the facts do count….the sequence counts.”

Hamas, he noted, has been “firing these rockets for eight years – eight years! Can you imagine what the U.S. would do if 6,000 rockets were fired from Mexico at San Diego? Would the U.S. wait eight years? Would they wait eight months? I don’t think they would wait eight minutes to fight back.”

Netanyahu pointed out that Hamas is launching rockets out of mosques, hospitals, elementary schools, universities – putting innocent Palestinians in harm’s way when Israel seeks to retaliate. “We don’t deliberately target civilians, though we regret when civilians are injured or killed,” he said. “That basic fact should be spoken…loud and clear by the friends of Israel and the friends of Jews.”

Regarding the immediate future of the Arab-Israeli peace process, Netanyahu said “the idea that you can have a final settlement….I think that is just not realistic.”

He noted that he had resigned from the cabinet in 2005 when the government of then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon decided to give away Gaza for free. He said when it comes to any future potential “deals” with the Palestinians, “don’t repeat the mistakes of the past.”

Before there is anymore international talk of Israel ceding territory to the Palestinians, Israel needs to pursue four strategies:

  1. Fight Islamic radicals
  2. Strengthen Islamic moderates
  3. Reestablish security on all of Israel’s borders
  4. Begin rapid economic development for Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza

He was asked if he thought Hamas was holding out for the new administration of Barack Obama, hoping that Obama would put new pressure on Israel to stop fighting and accepting a potentially premature cease fire.

“I do remember Mr. Obama visited Sderot not long ago and said something to the effect that, ‘If my two girls lived in a home that was rocketed by terrorists, I would do everything in my power to stop it.’” He added, “I think the U.S. has an interest in stopping terrorists wherever they are.”

Netanyahu said the biggest threat Israel faces is not from Hamas, or even from Hezbollah, per se, but from Radical Islamic terrorists or states possessing nuclear weapons. He described Iran acquiring such weapons of mass destruction as a “nightmare scenario,” along with militant Islamists seizing control of nuclear-armed Pakistan. Though he did not lay out how he would approach the Iran crisis should he be elected Prime Minister, he strongly hinted that time is running out and that the West had to take decisive action before it is too late.

Netanyahu concluded by insisting that Israel “should do everything can to return Gilad Shalit,” the IDF soldier kidnapped by Hamas on June 25, 2006, though he declined to criticize the current Olmert government when asked if Olmert and his team were doing enough to bring Shalit home and to make his return a precondition of a cease fire.

Not asked —  unfortunately — was whether Netanyahu believed Israel’s government should fully invade Gaza’s urban centers and bring down the Hamas leadership and terror infrastructure once and for all. It would have been useful to get his take on this because at the moment, my read is that the Olmert government is hedging on that decision. True, they have been calling up the Reserves and putting those Reserves into the Gaza theater to bolster the IDF forces already inching towards Hamas positions. But we have not seen a full scale ground campaign into Gaza’s toughest urban centers, the strongholds of the Hamas forces. Instead, the Olmert government seems to be waiting for a deal to emerge with Hamas, Egypt and the international community to bring about a rapid cease fire. Many here in Israel are worried that Olmert will accept a cease fire too quickly, as he did with Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006. No Israeli parent wants to see another of their sons killed in combat. But scores of Israeli parents are telling me they want to see “the whole job done” — Hamas destroyed and the rocket threat squashed once and for all.  They do not want to have the nation sacrifice so much in the last sixteen days only to see the threat reemerge all over again. Finish the job, they say.

Under the circumstances, I agree.

HEADLINES TO TRACK:

UPDATE ON ISRAEL’S HUMANITARIAN RELIEF TO THEIR ENEMIES IN GAZA:

  • On Monday, Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a statement noting that 3,129 tons of humanitarian aid  — including basic food commodities, medical supplies and medication — were transferred to the Gaza Strip. “This is the largest shipment of humanitarian goods to the Gaza Strip since the military operation began,” the Israeli authorities noted. “The commodities were conveyed on 120 trucks and included supplies for the UNRWA, the World Food Programme, UNICEF…[and] goods for the private sector.”
  • Aid agencies in Gaza resume deliveries

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